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Hi, Gerda, you are wrong, in 1876 Transylvania was part of the Kingdom of Hungary, and Hungarian was the official language and administration, while in the Austrian side of the Monarchy it was German. Thus the time of birth, the name was of the city Brassó. The infobox is representing the official status quo and contemporary naming as usual, in the core I let Kronstadt in the first place in respect to the person who is and ethnic-German born in Hungary, and the German name has been Kronstadt of the city (though not official at that time). Thus there is no flaw in my edit, it is as professional as hundreds in other articles, believe me I really much care of the maximum precisity such cases (in case she would born between 1849-1867, then Kronstadt could have been used fairly as Trasylvania was a crownland of the Austrian Empire without Hungarian administration, but not after 1867).(KIENGIR (talk) 13:03, 28 November 2018 (UTC))[reply]

Yes, I am wrong. No biography does NOT mention Kronstadt, though, please find a way to say both, or our readers will be thoroughly confused. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I will solve it!(KIENGIR (talk) 13:12, 28 November 2018 (UTC))[reply]
Thank you. Can you also find a way to mention Transsylvania, because that seems to define best where she comes from? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well it is not so easy, while usually we schrink the infobox data to the most official contemporary and present-day status quo, because there are some articles where some enlist all the little administrative units and soon the reader will really not understand anything. Let me demonstrate it with a few examples:
i.e. timeline 1867-1918 -> Győr, Győr County, Kingdom of Hungary, Austria-Hungary -> will be set Győr, Austria-Hungary (though Austria-Hungary in this case is interchangeable with Kingdom of Hungary)
i.e. speacial status/cases between 1804-1848 and 1849-1867 every location in Hungary without the Grand Principality of Transyilvania is described as "city", Kingdom of Hungary, Austrian Empire; because Hungary unlike other crowlands remained a spearate country and was not incorporated to the Empire, just the King was common. Though it won't be done necessarily to other crowlands which did not have this status
i.e. Grand Principality of Transylvania from 1711-1840 is a separate country/entity could be listed, but since 1804 it is crownland of the Austrian Empire without any special status, places there normally are written only city, Austrian Empire, after 1867 as reincorporated to Hungary city, Austria-Hungary or city, Kingdom of Hungary
etc. countless examples in different conditions. Because of these I would avoid mention Transylvania in the infobox (having not any special status, just a historical region) and see it compensated that by the lead (w/o mentioning an official country of belonging, that is odd) and in the core Transylvania is immediately emphasized in return at the first place (and believe me I love Transylvania, it has nothing personal, just want to be consistent).(KIENGIR (talk) 14:01, 28 November 2018 (UTC))[reply]